Talk:North Ness

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Don't know what you all think of this idea, but:
Me and Oddrun think that the information supplied by User:R Clarke deserves a page of its own, under the Wartime Shetland category, linked from a section on this page.
Oddrun has more to come on the MTB's, and there is a lot more we could write about this incident, and others around Lerwick during WWII, in general. All this information could be interlinked.
But this story stands out from anything we've got on the subject so far, and puts a very real personal impression on the events.
Suggestions/Ideas?????
Robbie 13:46, 29 February 2008 (MST)

In my opinion it is material like this which is one of the main reasons for having Shetlopedia in addition to Wikipedia. Anecdotes and personal stuff are of great interest to many people, but there is just no way it could be added to Wikipedia. Take, for example, the case of the mines exploding at Breiwick, I remember tales about this which I've never seen in historical accounts. They are too trivial, but at the same time very interesting. Another WWII incident I never come across was the spitfire crashing into the Knab. I don't know the date but heard memorable info about the gruesome aftermath. In short, anecdotes etc should be encouraged.
EM 14:12, 29 February 2008 (MST)

I would leave it on the North Ness page for the moment, but also add it to Wartime Shetland category. I think it's great that info on Shetlopedia has solved this riddle.
Heimdal 14:21, 29 February 2008 (MST)

Im very glad to see this story, it's a personal story, and I love it !! I have quite a bit to add about the MTB's, and one day I'll write it...., and as you say Heimdal, it belongs to the "Wartime" Category too,,,.
Cheers, 16:48, 29 February 2008 (MST)

Heimdal,
Of course, leave the article, perhaps in an abbreviated form, on the North Ness page, but move the main text to a page of it's own, was what I meant.
EM,
It's only about 2 years ago since I was doing a job at a house on South Road, just next to Bells Road, and they had workmen in doing a refurbishment of the exterior concrete. They explained to me that the cracks in the walls had been caused by the mines exploding in Breiwick during WWII. Being a non historical person, that's the first I had heard of those mines.
Robbie 17:05, 29 February 2008 (MST)

Just found that our North Ness page is linked to here, http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/43-11.htm
Heimdal 16:07, 13 March 2008 (MDT)

Just one little information : Tirpitz has NEVER been in France !!
http://www.bismarck-class.dk/tirpitz/tiroperationhist.html
--Oddrun 16:22, 20 March 2008 (MDT)

MTB 626

The article states that MTB 626 was one of 12 which caught fire in Ostend, 1945. But that was the one which blew up along with 686 in Lerwick harbour. I assume this is a typo.
Robbie 04:14, 22 March 2008 (MDT)

Hopefully all knows that he copied what I wrote about the fall of 1943, I did not copy him !
--Oddrun 09:47, 23 March 2008 (MDT)

Enough Is Enough.

I'm going to have to do some serious, and I mean serious, editing on this page.
It is getting totally beyond the point where I can live with it.
Unless I hear any objections, or sensible counter proposals, within the next 30 minutes, I'll sort it.
Robbie 13:52, 24 March 2008 (MDT)

I would tend to agree, at the very least everything below where it say "The Man" needs to be moved to a page of it's own, the first paragrah is fine, but beyond that it's personal and general info, not North Ness specific info. There's more that could be written about the North Ness, especially it's history post war, but the page as it stands it's already on the big side.

Ghostrider 14:06, 24 March 2008 (MDT)

It's not the size that's the problem. It's the inaccurate, misleading, and down right sensationalist content which is the problem.
Robbie 14:10, 24 March 2008 (MDT)

Shetlopedia can do without that too, it's difficult enough trying to figure out and verify things from unclear and incomplete records, and possibly have to leave innacuracies in place as a result, without also having up what's known to be wrong.

A seperate page for the personal and general info could be subtitled to make it clear it was a personal piece by one individual, and unverified by Shetlopedia. It would at least warn anyone reading it what exactly it was, and buy a little time to get the inaccuracies sorted out.

Ghostrider 14:33, 24 March 2008 (MDT)

If the contributor had made any effort to interact with other editors, any problems could have been resolved. But when there is a continual input of content which is 'wrong', 'severely in doubt', 'sensationalist', etc. And they continue to link the article, and Shetlopedia, to other sites without the information being corrected/verified, then action is required.
Before the article is re-instated it will be checked and edited, to a point where we can at least be sure that nothing obviously wrong or misleading is included.
Robbie 14:59, 24 March 2008 (MDT)