Talk:The Lodberries
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Islandhopper,
Somewhere in my braincell, I recall hearing stories about smugglers tunnels, or such like, in or near the Lodberries. Have you found any mention of such things in your research??? Maybe it was just a myth, but I'll bet that there was at least some smuggling going on, with or without tunnels ;-)
Robbie 13:56, 29 May 2007 (MDT)
I've heard the same. My Dad's mentioned it before. Stories about smuggling, and tunnels underneath Lerwick. I'll ask him about it.
Maybe an article about Shetland Smuggling would be good. There has been plenty of that going on over the years. Lots of hides out in the hills.
Cheers GaryWiki 14:41, 29 May 2007 (MDT)
- You are right - not just myth. There are some references in local tradition but I din't find that bloody brochure up to now *grrrr*. The Shetland Trail folk mention such stuff on their hp, too. I'm just waiting for an answer from that Danish historian who mentioned that "old town hall" to get a better clue on Stevenson's account about the water-stair. When I'll have all that together, I will ask the Shetland Trail folks for more details (I think it's better to quote "some" knowledge to get them motivated to look into the details, you know ... ;-) ) ... and hopefully I'll have found my Shetland Tales brochure from the early 1980s until then ... :-D
Within that tales brochure there is defenitely one story about at least one Lodberrie having such a tunnel where they used to smuggle in Dutch gin ... the boat landed, was unloaded and while the custom came to check the load, the gin was smuggled through the tunnel to a house in the back of the toll booth ... so this story has a particular reference to a lodberrie south of Victoria Pier, close to the toll booth ... may be the Queen's, The Lodberrrie or Goudie's Pier or something in that area. Damned sure I am :-D
- Wait and see ... ;-) Islandhopper 14:53, 29 May 2007 (MDT)
- You are right - not just myth. There are some references in local tradition but I din't find that bloody brochure up to now *grrrr*. The Shetland Trail folk mention such stuff on their hp, too. I'm just waiting for an answer from that Danish historian who mentioned that "old town hall" to get a better clue on Stevenson's account about the water-stair. When I'll have all that together, I will ask the Shetland Trail folks for more details (I think it's better to quote "some" knowledge to get them motivated to look into the details, you know ... ;-) ) ... and hopefully I'll have found my Shetland Tales brochure from the early 1980s until then ... :-D
Speaking of Island Trails, if me and Oddrun get our holiday in Shetland this summer (fingers crossed), then I think a visit to Elma Johnson would be a great fun especially for Oddrun.
I've known Elma since I was a kid, she is one of the most genuine outgoing people you are ever likely to meet, and the research she has done into providing her guided tours is exceptional. She is possibly, well at least in my opinion, one of the best tourist assets Shetland has got. (Elma, if du reads dis, dat'll be a double rum n' coke fur me) ;-)
Look her up on your next visit to Shetland..
Robbie 15:13, 29 May 2007 (MDT)
- Should you not use the word "passageway" or "tunnell" instead of alley about the underground smuggler ways ?? An alley is someting with no roof, a narrow lane or a passage between buildings, as far as I know...Oddrun 10:48, 11 June 2007 (MDT)
Oddrun, that's why I introduced "underground passage" a few lines earlier to avoid any missunderstanding but despite that in archaeologigal, architectural or even nautical terms an alley, alleys or an alleyway is nothing else but a "narrow passage" whether roofed or not: alley, a very narrow open lane between two houses, alleys the "servants' floor within a big Victorian or Gergorgian mansion", alleyways the narrow crew passages between different sections of a big ship. The museum's website uses alleyways ... follow link (1) ... but I don't have any "heartblood" in this matter. If you think any other word helps to a better understanding then, please, change it. May be I am too familliar with alleys from my archaeological background. Cheers Islandhopper 14:44, 11 June 2007 (MDT)
... *ggg* I hate this Anglicisms and and Amercanisms ... it is LORE from Old Scots lare = that what's learned, the body of traditions ... thus it should be the folk lore, or the Shetland lore, all and everyting the folks or the Shetland folks may know and preserved ... folklore is perhaps hillbilly and Gaelic sing sang song ... ;-) ... but leave it, I agree it is more popular ... *ggg* Islandhopper 15:11, 11 June 2007 (MDT)
Sea Scouts
The Sea Scouts used to have their weekly meetings in the Lodberries. I remember Alastair Jackson, sadly with us no more, was the leader in my time (c1974). There was another Hamish who was a sort of assistant leader. Just in case anyone thinks I am he.
Hamish
- Interestingly, during our recent photographic tour of Shetland, I took a picture of the door, and sign, of the Sea Scouts meeting place. Pic isn't very good, but I may enhance it.
It did make me wonder about the Sea Scouts. Whether they were still in existence, and how we could perhaps create a page on their history, including the involvement of the late J Moncrieff.
Do you have any info Hamish????
Cheers,
Robbie 11:49, 17 August 2007 (MDT)
Hi Robbie
- Sorry, I was never that involved. I have emailed you.
Cheers!
Hamish
