Talk:A Topographical Dictionary of Scotland

I know the text is too long. I opted for the scan as a text version instead of images so that we can add wiki-links to already existing shetlopedia pages. Islandhopper 15:05, 6 October 2008 (MDT)

Interesting page. :-) But more interesting is how many links can be made, or how long it will take you to make the links.. :-)))) Rather you than me. ;-) This could be a Shetloppedia record for the number of links in a single page. :-) :-)
Robbie 15:21, 6 October 2008 (MDT)

Cross ??? Where is this island, or what is it called now ???? This is fascinating. :-)
Robbie 15:55, 6 October 2008 (MDT)

I found this site which displays OS maps on-line. (but doesn't show 'Cross')
http://maps.the-hug.net/

It opens with Ben Nevis but there is a box (top left) where any other U K location (e.g "Scousburgh") can be entered. Once at your place of choice, you can calculate (crow's flight) distances between points by clicking on two (or more) points. This also gives the Lat/Long of the points in a new box on the left. The route created can be removed by clicking on the 'Clear' word in 'Clear GPX ' box. By holding down the left button you can drag the map around and by using your scroll wheel you can zoom in or out. There are + and - buttons if you don't have a wheel. Also you can print the maps (Ctrl + P), so very handy for hill walkers, etc. Also handier than having to unfold paper maps  !
Heimdal 16:10, 6 October 2008 (MDT)

I was searching for Cross, too. According to the description there is only one island, today's Lady's Holm. Cross fits with the long gone cross kirk in Quendale; may be the name of the island changed after the kirk was gone??? Islandhopper 16:50, 6 October 2008 (MDT)

On Blaeu's Atlas of Scotland, 1654, Orcadum et Shetlandiae Insularum, there is a Hundholm and a Crosholm. Hundholm (also known from the Orkneyinga Saga) was identified with modern Horse island. That Crosholm on Blaeu's map is a "double island" like Lady's Holm and Little Holm although the positions of Hundholm and Crosholm are just upside down. See also here on the NLS digital map library and click on the map to get a larger view. Islandhopper 17:06, 6 October 2008 (MDT)

John Thomson's Atlas of Scotland, 1832, shows a Cross Island where the Admiralty Chart, 1833, has the new name of the Lady's Skerries but Thomson has no Hundholm or Horse Island so the position of the Lady's Skerries is not 100% clear. Islandhopper 17:23, 6 October 2008 (MDT)

about links in general

I have started to add some links but I am concentration on such links which are essential for the understanding, where a place is and what is contained. Where we don't have links to the corresponding parishes in Shetlopedia I will link to the settlements if there is something in that shetlopedia category. Further on I will link to the major waters which border the places and to the major islands which are included in a topic. Feel free and help yourself with adding more links if you want ... ;-) Islandhopper 04:45, 7 October 2008 (MDT)

about Delting

There are four Mansion houses mentioned; the same as in the stat. account. Garth is not the place Garth, which we do already have in Shetlopedia ... and where in hell is that Ullhouse ??? :-) Islandhopper 04:45, 7 October 2008 (MDT)

I don't know Delting very well at all, but at a guess Ullhouse could be a mis-spelling of Udhouse? I don't know if there was/is any kind of mansion house there, but the way the older natives of the area pronounced Udhouse could very easily have been mis-heard as something closer to Ullhouse, by someone not particularly familiar with the finer points of the version of Shetland spoken there.

Ghostrider 05:41, 7 October 2008 (MDT)

That sounds like being possible, Ghostrider, the more than old maps do have two houses in the Mossbank area: Udhouse and Inhouse (close to Infield on modern maps).

next question: is it possible that "Culsterness" is Culsetter Ness of old maps? I do only know from Hoy / Orkney that the place "Snelsetter" is spoken as Snellster ... ??? ;-)

... but where is that Trondravoe ??? Islandhopper 12:34, 7 October 2008 (MDT)

Setter in Shetland names is normally pronounce ster. There are many examples in Dunrossness alone, such as Dalster, Culster, Bakster, etc.
Robbie 12:52, 7 October 2008 (MDT)

Oops, just noticed your other question. The Loch ofTrondavoe is near Scatsta. Just SW of the end of the airport. In fact just realised from looking at a map that the houses just south of there are called Trondavoe. So I've learned something today. Now the question is, was there a Voe called Tronda Voe? ;-)
Robbie 13:03, 7 October 2008 (MDT)

Well, Robbie, a bit north of the houses towards Scatsca airport there is a Loch of Tondravoe and to the west of Trondravoe we have the "Loons" and a "Loons burn". From modern maps that area looks like being drained ... ??? Islandhopper 13:29, 7 October 2008 (MDT)

My OS maps which are 2 year old, show Loch of Trondavoe, which I think was there the last time I passed, although I couldn't swear to that as it might have been drained to do with the airport. I know it was/is a very shallow loch. Running from the loch to Voxter Voe, and just to the west side of the Trondavoe houses, is a burn called "Loch Burn". I don't see any other burns mentioned in the area, so the Loch burn may be the same as Loons burn on old maps. Our internet connection has a trow in it tonight, so can't get old maps to load.
Robbie 13:52, 7 October 2008 (MDT)

OOOoooppps

... found this nice text on Shetlopedia ... :-D So, for the first half of the new year I'll add some missing links ... :-D ... to islands, settlements and other subjects which are now available on shetlopedia ... :-D Islandhopper 14:49, 8 December 2008 (MST)