Talk:Shetlopedia.com

Does anyone else think that this page needs to be seriously updated with more information? Especially now its the 2 year anniversary JAStewart 03:37, 8 July 2008 (MDT)

Since when did Shetlopedia become a place to simply 'publish poetry'?--Kevin 11:30, 17 June 2009 (MDT)

Since when did that matter? There are thousands of pages on Shetlopedia - what harm is a few poem's going to do? JAStewart 12:09, 17 June 2009 (MDT)

Kevin
Shetlopedia has always been open to contributions of almost any nature about Shetland, or by Shetlanders.
As long as any such contributions are not in any way infringing copyright laws, eg. they are original work.
Obviously, as with all things on Shetlopedia, we remain open to suggestions for change or improvement.
Are you suggesting that such publication should not be allowed? If so we'll have to consider this, as I have to admit the subject has never been broached before.
My personal viewpoint is that original work of any kind: Poems, pictures, etc., should be encouraged. As it's far less likely to be boring to a reader than, for instance, the fish prices. ;)
Robbie 12:18, 17 June 2009 (MDT)

Maist times whan some een haes a go at me, I skrive a bit o a poem aboot dem. I can aye do een aboot dee, if do wants Kevin (Ir is du Brian atil a guizin mask?).
Bit du needna budder dysel, a'm lang been tinkin o gyain inta retirement, so if du's no plaesed we da bruk dat a'm pittin on here trow me time, a'll delete hit aa, an dan du'll no hae onythin ta greet aboot.
Wan pairtin tocht, dat micht mak de tink atil anidder cant. If da twartree fok, dat hiv pitten a lok o wark inta Shetlopedia, hed been pitten aff wi da fok dat kent nae better dan ta aks traan tings, dir widna be sae mony pages o sense here noo. So lat a grain o bruk, dat's aa ment ta be a lauch, gie a twartree fok a grain o pleasir. Du dusna hae ta read hit, ony mair dan I hae ta read aboot fitba.
Yun's aa.
A'm geeng.
Auld Rasmie 14:37, 17 June 2009 (MDT)

PS. Ta plaes dee, me pages'll dissapear atil a blue low i da neest twartree days.
Auld Rasmie 14:43, 17 June 2009 (MDT)

Shetlopedia is a Shetland website, and if a Shetland poet wants to publish poetry, then he/she should be allowed and encouraged to do so. A lot of people enjoy the poetry; it's original and they won't see it anywhere else. For people who don't enjoy it, they don't have to read it. Our pages as categorised in such a way that hopefully makes it easier for the user to find what they're looking for. If someone is searching for poetry then they'll find it; and if they're not, they won't.

As long as the poetry isn't offensive or breaking any laws, then it should stay.

Shetlopedia 22:16, 17 June 2009 (MDT)

Offensive in what regard? Fair enough if it is targeting a specific individual in Shetland, that is unacceptable. JAStewart 05:33, 18 June 2009 (MDT)

Complaints by Pett

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I don't think Shetlopedia has an abundance of "scholastic" rigour. For a start, a lot of you don't know what the difference between Vikings and Norsemen is. For another, there's a bunch of advertisements on here for B&Bs.--Pett 05:45, 17 January 2012 (MST)

I'm not sure if you are including myself in your "a lot of you," though I expect not. I generally tend towards the pedantic distinction of using Viking to mean those Norsemen who went raiding. At one time this was the favoured approach, and I am guessing this is what you are alluding to. The current situation within the Viking academic community has, however, changed dramatically in recent years. The term Viking is now being widely, and formally, used as a preferred term for all Norse people during the so-called Viking age. I sometimes wonder if this change in fashion towards favouring the term Viking could in part be down to the non-gender specific nature of the word, compared to Norseman.
With respect to the B&B pages, as Robbie notes above, Shetlopedia's remit is to host all information concerning Shetland. As such B&B information is quite appropriate, as well as conveniently useful.
EM 04:20, 18 January 2012 (MST)

Your definition of Viking is correct IMHO. But the fact that we seem to take more pride in the fact that some of our Norse ancestors were robbers, rapists and murderers (often of the defenceless), rather than artists, explorers and poets etc, is sad. You don't need to go to the Viking Age for that, just go to certain rough parts of London or LA.

Scholastic rigour? No, there's not a lot of that on here. There's some but it's not widely spread.--Pett 05:29, 18 January 2012 (MST)

Well Pett. Where do I start.
I'm no 'scholar', so that's that bit out of the way. In fact, as has so very often been pointed out by well educated contributors, I know nothing.
But Shetlopedia is what it has become, right or wrong, and I most likely had a very big hand in the 'wrong' bit of it. Apart from some of the formatting of pages which I think I maybe got right.
I don't really understand, or want to understand, half of the problems which educated folk bring to the documenting of facts, which is why I gave up trying to add facts.
Certain educated contributors even debated photographic accuracy, so I gave up on that.
I was adding statistics, which seemed to show that the site was being well used (sometimes to find accommodation, including B&Bs), but it's only a matter of time before some scholarly person tells me what I already know, that statistics can't be believed... So I gave up on that.

Shetlopedia was, I think, slowly building into a useful site for the recording of facts about Shetland. Since I'm no historian I was more interested in recording present day facts which would become the history of the future.. I'm talking about simple things like the dates things happened this year, the weather this year, fish prices this year, etc.. All these things were in my opinion the things which the site could hold as the history of a future generation. Plus a whole load of pictures to document today for the future.
But slowly the scholarly approach reared it's ugly head, and a pleasant hobby became an absolute nightmare.
I'm too stupid to understand exactly what "Scholastic Rigour" means, but I do know the meaning of the words "Bullshit", "Ignorance", and "Arrogance". I've lived long enough to recognise them from a very great distance.
Shetlopedia was a very happy peaceful site run by well meaning individuals who enjoyed what they were trying to do, until those three words were brought in by the "Scholars".

Some of your edits lately have been a tad debatable, and since I'm one of the ignorant editors I can't do nothing about it. But please be careful with your argumentative approach towards other more educated editors. Your opinion just might not be right, or perhaps you've never considered that possibility.
Robbie 14:27, 18 January 2012 (MST)